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telling than just what one election result might suggest. >> well, i think it certainly does and it gives him a certain platform and credibility that perhaps he didn't have before. but watching as these fiscal cliff negotiations have gone through the holidays, it certainly is perhaps a little bit more of a bully pulpit for the president and for his position on taxes. but i think the biggest story of the year came at the end of the year in the past week or so which is the massacre at sandy hook elementary school in newtown and i think the presidency now might be shaped by those events and those are the stories that both barnicle and andrea have chose n as the top story. would you agree this could be a signature for the second term? >> i to do. i do agree with that. i think the events of a few days ago in newtown, connecticut, will help shape a good portion of the president's second and final term in office. i think it gives us a huge impe it tus to changes in this country that had had taken too long to take hold. i think the presidency itself, i think the man himself was shaped and altered
think 56% compared to mr. boehner's 26% and what the public voted for in the last election. a lot of things the people don't realize is president is catching hell from the left, in other words, from people who believe in the congress that the cpi, cost of living, should not be reduced so that people on veterans benefits, disabilities benefits, social security benefits, the money is not reduced considering most of the people have nothing and only getting $15,000 to $16,000 a month in social security benefits. so with the president engaging in these discussions, she cannot say that he is not coming forth and doing all that he can. i think he is doing all he can and catching hell at the same time. so, again, there is some give, give. i don't agree with the slashing of any kind of benefits for social security, people on social security and medicare benefits but i also see that the president is trying to work a deal. >> congressman, speaker boehner also said to the president, you know, why not just give me the 2011 deal? 800 is that number there, 800 million. why not go back to that? e
that just got walloped in the election. can you expound on your theory there? >> first, let me just talk about democrats. you're too young to remember this, ari, but there was a period of time when people were wondering -- >> i dyed my hair, john. >> people were wondering when democrats could ever win a presidential election again, that's because they were on the wrong side of main street america, on some cultural change happening in the country. they were on the wrong side of issues like the death penalty, on issues like the use of force in foreign affairs, and it wasn't until they'd gotten whacked, george mcgovern lost overwhelmingly, mike ducacas was beaten pretty soundly. after all those things happened, the democratic party through bill clinton and others like him trying to change it, made the party more acceptable to the american people. republicans have not gotten there yet. it was a party as we saw in the election, a declining -- white share of the vote is the declining share of the electorate. their share is going up, but not enough to compensate. >> right. >> right now the sort
at some of the most memorable presidential moments of this election year. >>> president obama and senate members will be here in washington tomorrow, but we'll be hearing crickets on the house floor. nbc news has learned the republican leadership has not given representatives the 48-hour notice to return to work, another sign of inaction on the fiscal cliff front. joining me now for our daily fix, mr. jonathan capehart, msnbc contributor and "washington post" editorial writer. jonathan, we're just six days away, no indication from house republicans that they are going to come back any time soon. the leadership has gone mum on that. we know there's not been communication between boehner and mcconnell, obama and boehner. are you amazed with this short amount of time to go there seems to be no sense of urgency on either side? >> am i amazed, given what we went through with the debt ceiling, no, i'm not amazed. i think there are forces here in this town that would like for us, sure people would like for there to be a deal, but going over the cliff on january 1st when there's this notion wher
with that. and if this guy, who was actually elected to represent 12 million members of the afl-cio today, no one will go live to him either. and so what did this man have to say today? this man who got all of this attention. this man who is the ceo of a $200 million business that plays with the dues money of 4 million people, most of whom disagree with this man on some of the issues he cares about most. >> now, we must speak. for the safety of our nation's children. no one, nobody has addressed the most important pressing and immediate question we face. how do we protect our children right now? starting today. in a way that we know works. >> and then he suggested something that you cannot do right now starting today. put a police officer in every school in america. that would require hiring at least 132,133 new police officers. now just based on the median salary for police officers in america, that would cost $6.7 billion a year. there is not a town or city or state in america that has extra money lying around today to hire extra police officers. if $6.7 billion had to be raised from ne
play here. i don't see him behaving as a rational leader on this. >> there's no election for 22 months and as everyone knows, polls now about predictable capacity in november of 2014 are useless and the republicans know they can be incredibly unpopular and in defacto terms, changes nothing in washington other than unpopular. unpopular in october of 2014, they have a problem. if they're unpopular in january of 2013, you have gridlock in washington. >> who makes the next move? >> senator mcconnell's probably in the best position. he's in very close touch with the president, the white house and democrats in both the senate and the house have been in very close coordination throughout this. they have been in lockstep. it was interesting to note that when we saw the plan "b" chaos just before christmas the house democrats stood firm. they stood united. historically, that's not the play of the democratic party but that does seem to be where the democrats are right now. the president is back today so there can be an opportunity for some discussions to resume. but boehner has made it clear tha
't understand how these people cannot do their jobs that they're elected to. so i'm wondering what's your take on what's going on in washington? you're sitting in washington. >> right. the at least we have bipartisan agreement it's all nuts, right? everyone agrees this is ridiculous and in spite of what they say, they've been talking about it for months and years and there was ample talk about what a framework should be through the election, which wasn't that long ago. there's plenty of debate. to tie the two stories we have been talking wiabout together, there was a colin powerful doctrine that general schwartzkopf executed so well in the first gulf war. which was have an exit strategy and using overwhelming force. this congress had an exit strategy. they had the idea of overwhelming force, and they set themselves these limits. if they got through this deadline the pain would be so great on themself -- this is self-imposed -- they would find a way out. they have not executed their own strategy and been able to vote for their own leadership. what you have in washington just to take a step back
say more things are on the table than were before the election. the pessimist would say yeah, but there still isn't the substance of an agreement. >> the mechanics, i mean, what we have -- on the obama side, you have an election that pretty much, you know, they took as a mandate, if you will, where, you know, the very issue of taxes was sort of legislative, and the americans basically said they agreed with the president, saying that taxes need to rise on the wealthy. and then you have the right wing of the republican party who won also by wide margins in many deeply conservative districts. and they think they have a mandate. so in a way, it's like the two mandates are canceling each other out. they each think that they are -- and that is why we're frozen. i don't know if it's been that way -- i don't know if the mechanics have been such that it has been so polarized to the point where it's been paralyzing. >> where they feel like they've each won. >> it doesn't baffle me, it sort of angers me is that the conservative republicans who won by overwhelming margins in their distri
hold this vote as a score on whether to support them or oppose them in the last election they got very scared and they said we'll vote against the party leadership. >> that could have emboldened them. >> so the speaker is trying to punish them and those that were the outliars as you were describing here. that didn't work and they started to work against them and the question will be what will work? >> it is not clear that there is anything that will work other than as bill points out, having their constituents not support that type of behavior that sort of -- i like to call the hell no caucus. you can't get these guys to yes. if their constituents get to the point that they're angry, then maybe they should start voting with the party. and it's not just speaker john boehner. he was not the one sort of leading the rabble of the one leading it, he did serve on the panel and he wasn't personally the force behind that. can the speaker ignore these groups because based on what we're seeing so far they're working against him. >> he can't ignore them and what the president has to do is simply
with re-election? >> well, we really felt a little embarrassed that the president went there with the cpi. that's the cost of living and adjusting. because with all of this debate if you take the poorest of the poor people, those that are living on social security and believe they should be the target, and knowing you're negotiating with someone that's trying to protect the top 2% of the people, it's kind of hard for just rational people to go along with that. and of course under no circumstances can a lot of people understand $250,000. the president kicked it up to $400,000. and boehner said go to the devil, it should be a million dollars. and so we hope at some point the president's going to realize that he's not dealing with people that are sincerely dealing with him and get back to what he campaigned for. >> well, are the republicans at all concerned that the nation must look on them protecting the interests of the super wealthy and those with deep pockets and big spending, protecting them at all costs, especially at the risk of hurting the working poor and the middle class? are they
danger of not being re-elect side a conservative challenger ran against them saying hey, you supported a tax increase and you supported something president obama liked and that's what they have to think about each day they go to work and that's why they don't compromise on things they should compromise on. >> lynn, you said you're want optimistic about a deal being struck. do you still feel that way? >> oh, i think i would put the optimism meter up a notch or two just because people are working on there, and the more you look at the limited number of hours left, you actually probably can buy a little more time because for practical matter, the markets are go -- i believe are closing early on monday or at least there's not a lot of trading and if you need more time to let the ink dry on a stopgap measure and if people work on new year's day and the real deadline is noon january 3rd on thursday when this congress expires and these members and you have to swear in the new congress. >> so i even see a little more leeway, if it's just a matter to get the paperwork in order, but it is just d
that has gotten people talking. it has been seven weeks since the election and there has been a steady stream of details coming from both campaigns. now comes the revolution from tagg romney that his father had no desire to run for president again, at least at first. we have more on that story from boston. >> i have just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> reporter: as mitt romney, members of his campaign staff and top gop leaders continue assessing how he lost the election to a vulnerable incumbent president, the oldest son of the former massachusetts governor is raising eyebrows about his dad's initial reluctance to make a second white house run. in a story published in the "boston globe" tagg romney said his father, quote, wanted to be president less than anyone. he would have been ecstatic to step aside. "boston globe" reporter michael krenish interviewed tagg romney. >> i know there were serious discussions at the time before he decided to run and he looked at the field of competition and saw it was pretty waeak and his family pushed him. >> reporter: nbc
the election and there has been a steady stream of behind-the-scenes details coming from both campaigns. now comes the revolution from tag romney that his father had no desire to run for president at least at first. we have more on that from boston. >> i have just called president obama to congratulation him on his victory. >> reporter: as mitt romney, top gop leaders continue assessing how he lost the election to a vulnerable president, the oldest son is raising eyebrows about his dad's initial reluctance to make another run. tagg romney said he wanted to be press less than anyone else in the world. if he could have found someone else to make the run, he would have stepped aside. >> i do know that there were very serious discussions and concerns at the time before he decided to run and he looked at the field of competition and saw it was pretty weak and his family pushed him to say that he would be the best person given the way the field has taken shape. >> nbc's garrett hak spent nearly a year and a half covering the romney campaign. >> in between campaigns romney was definitely stung by t
elections matter, but really they do matter, because they redrew the districts in such a way that make them relatively safe. so even if they make the bad deal, they may open the case that says you are re-elected in 2014. >> that is why you see bay snor who thought he had a great plan, the plan b that would provide his caucus with political coverage to go back to say that we are willing to increase the tax rates, and democrats didn't want to do it, and now we will start over and his own caucus could not get behind that, so even when they have their leader trying to put something before them that will provide political cover for them all, they can't get those numbers to vote for it. so i don't know, even if they kick it up to the senate, if the senate kicks it back down to them, that he is going to be able to get the support he needs in his caucus to pass it through the house. >> speaking of kicking it around, and that is what the president said yesterday. he asked that reid go to the up or down vote to see what it is, and what is the politics around that? >> well, john boehner, and it is imp
to give in a whole lot more because he won the election and he ran on a platform of increasing taxes on those making $250,000 or more. chuck schumer addressed this issue earlier today. take a listen. >> on taxes, i know it's hard for the republicans, but the president ran on that platform, $250,000. no tax increases to people below but taxes for people above. he won 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> reporter: so again there is senator chuck schumer. so certainly still big topic of conversation despite the fact that everyone is now on recess. alex, yesterday we spoke to some folks who said this is really weighing on them as they enter the holiday season, as they do their christmas shopping, the uncertainty in washington kind of passing a cloud over their holiday. as for president obama, this is a working vacation, but he's clearly also relaxing quite a bit as well. he played a game of golf yesterday, went to dinner with the first lady and some friends. today, alex, partisan bickering will be put aside when many members of congress
mandate of re-election and the fact he ran on raising taxes if he was given a second term, why is there such this stalemate and trepidation in washington, d.c. to get a deal done? >> reporter: how many hours do we have? let me try it this way. there's a group of hard core tea party republicans but democrats say we won because as your poll shows most americans support the president's position on higher taxes on top earners and seemingly at this point about leverage rather than compromise, and frankly, a reluctance on both sides to have the first set of fingerprints on significant spending cuts, whether it's defense ovr entitlement program. >> thank you. and merry christmas to you and your team there. >> merry christmas to you guys. >> thank you. >>> in terms of politics and a deal, wyoming senator says he thinks that the white house want it is country to go over the fiscal cliff to give the president leverage. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the clip for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the clif
saying you tried to get the president not to be re-elected. you failed in that effort. he said you don't have the clout that you had politically in this town in past debates. >> the american people, i know one thing about them, they value their freedom. when the reality of the consequences of what the politicians in this town and the media and elites want to do to their rights and take them away, i think they'll do what they've done historically, defend the freedom. the american public knows the scene of the crime, it's a criminal and a victim. all these politicians aren't there. they see people like mayor bloomberg, new york city, if you're rich and you're famous you get your permit, if you're a .300 hitter with the mets, you get a permit, a big developer, you get a permit, wall street executive, you get a permit, the mayor's buddy, you get your permit. if you're a guy in the bronx, most in need of protection, you're flat out of luck. we're about the average guy, the noncelebrity, the non .300 hitter. we're about the nondeveloper. the average guy in the country values his freedom, doe
the american public what they want. what's not clear is exactly what should be coming out from the election. the president very clearly has been saying his bargaining power should have been increased and they should win some concessions from reps. we have not seen the answer yet. i don't think we will until we see a resolution to the fiscal cliff. >> we're just seeing more and more moving parts, aren't we, in the beltway? thank you both. stick around we'll get back to you in a bit. >>> senator mike crapo was arrested over the weekend. he ran a red light, then failed several sobriety tests. officers say he was cooperative and released on a boon. he quickly released a statement apologizing for the incident. >>> coming up for you, the tough road to the pentagon. former senator chuck hagel facing cry sim. and doubt from both sides of the aisle. >> i'd have to study his report. i'm not going to comment until the president make a nomination. >>> plus we're following breaking news. two firefighters shot to death, as they respond to a fire. the latest of that, coming up. when you have diabetes... y
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